Pat Robertson’s lucid transgender moment

Pat-Robertson-rawstoryTHE GUERRILLA ANGEL REPORT — From the man who wished for a ‘vomit’ button on Facebook so he could push it whenever he saw something LGBT-related, it appeared to be somewhat of shock when Pat Robertson recently said something so rational and clear-headed about transgender people.

Robertson: “I think there are men who are in a woman’s body. It’s very rare. But it’s true — or women that are in men’s bodies — and that they want a sex change. That is a very permanent thing, believe me, when you have certain body parts amputated and when you have shot up with various kinds of hormones. It’s a radical procedure. I don’t think there’s any sin associated with that. I don’t condemn somebody for doing that.”

Let’s not be fooled people, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Pat Robertson can’t even approach the success rate of a broken clock. He’s no advocate for trans people.

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16 replies

  1. He only advocates for those that believe themselves straight after the procedure. oh and he was friends with Biber before his retirement.

  2. what do you mean he is no friend to transsexuals. He said transsexual was rare. And not a sin, and this is not the first time he said this. Are you showing solidarity to our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. Who for years have thrown us off the bus when it suited them. He is a friend and surely not enemy, and I am not a Christian.

    • Hannah, there’s this from Robertson:

      “I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household, and the husband is the head of the wife, and that’s the way it is, period.”

      And this:

      “The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”

      And this about the Haiti earthquake:

      “They were under the heel of the French, you know, Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, ‘We will serve you if you will get us free from the prince.’ True story.

      And so the devil said, ‘OK, it’s a deal.’ And they kicked the French out. The Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after another.”

      On Hugo Chavez:

      “You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.”

      On Midwest tornados:

      “If enough people were praying, (God) would’ve intervened. You could pray. Jesus stilled the storm. You can still storms.”

      Sources: CNN.
      ——–

      I don’t want him on our team.

    • I understand your reaction. It disgust me that so many gays and lesbians hate us–but it is not all of them.I appreciate those who ARE allies.It is good to see Pat at least has this tiny bit of understanding

  3. OMG – I saw a poster on Tumblr last night

    “The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”

    but I thought it was really funny joke… now I feel a bit sick

  4. He is wrong on one thing, it isn’t really rare. .3% of the population is transgender on the average. The only reason people perceive it to be rare is that a majority are in hiding to avoid discrimination and persecution. The fact is, you probably know several transgenders and are probably not even aware of it. While physical internal and/or external genital or reproductive mixes are a bit more rare, the overall intersex condition is not. One in 500 male children are born XXY, and that is not the only gender chromosomal grey area. I have 2 close friends that were born supposedly male, but have internal parts of a female. One was even told by her doctor that under the right circumstances, she could impregnate herself. Transgender conditions have nothing to do with sexual preference. In fact, most studies have shown that a majority of male to female transgenders (cross dressers, transsexuals, intersex) are heterosexual to their external physical gender. It’s for this reason that the gay community in many larger cities reject the trans community. They know what the general population does not, that the trans people largely do not fit into their neat little box.

  5. So basically he’s homophobic but not transphobic? That’s a rare combination…

  6. @Melanie, most transgender folks (using the umbrella definition) are heterosexual to their gender identity. You can’t say external physical gender when talking about transsexuals.

    • That is true. The statement was made over the general misinformed or opinionated impression that gender variance is a choice. I know about 1000 transgenders, but do not know of a single one that chose to be transgender. Even after having completed my transition, if I had a choice, it would be to never have been born with this burden and extreme expense it caused me.

      • I tell people we’re like other minorities like L, G, B, etc. Few in their right minds would choose this and suffer the hate, discrimination, and losses (Though my transition has been remarkably smooth. I’ve lost no friends or family though I will soon tell more, and I’ve made lots of friends as Linda. I also had no issue transitioning right after my current firm hired me.) if this isn’t who they really are. This is really a self-diagnosed condition. Only we know how far and much we need to transition.

  7. Pretty sure I read about Pat saying this years or maybe even a decade ago. It does make one wonder what prompted this statement

  8. Apparently, this is not new. From Monica Roberts:

    http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2008/03/october-5-1999-700-club-show.html

    The October 5, 1999 700 Club Show
    TransGriot Note: With all the faith-based Hateraid being spewed at transgender people lately by fundamentalists and the Catholic Church, I thought it was time to post this transcript from a 700 Club show. Pat Robertson weighed in on transsexuality and stated the obvious on October 5, 1999. Note the parts I have in bold print.

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    Letter Writer:
    I’m 40 years old and have had a sex change. I’ve been watching your program and was wondering if God forgave me. Should I live as I am now or go back to my birth gender?

    Pat Robertson:
    This is a very serious question and I appreciate it. There are people who are born with various types of hormonal activity in their bodies and they feel more male than female, and more female than male. I know a plastic surgeon here, in this area who indeed does that sort of thing and, ah, to accommodate what is going on in peoples lives.

    Terry Meeuwsen:
    This is a very legitimate hormonal thing happening.

    Pat Robertson:
    Exactly. So, it is not a sin. So you don’t need to feel guilty.

    He goes on to say…

    So you say, will God forgive me. Of course He will, He does. This isn’t something that you have sinned and if you wish to get back and your 40 years old, it’s not exctly too late. I know as I say, one man who can do a sex change reversal.

    Terry Meeuwsen:
    God is interested in what his heart, attitude is, speaking spiritually.

    Pat Robertson:
    God does not care what your external organs are. The question is whether you are living for God or not. Yes, He loves you. Yes, He forgives you and He understands what is going on in your body.

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    Any wonder that the Forces of Intolerance quickly scrubbed this transcript snippet from the 700 Club archives? Pat has since tried to distance himself from these remarks, but it’s out in The Net and the gift that keeps on giving. I used that last quote in March 2001 when I testified in my home state in favor of a streamlined name change bill that TGAIN was sponsoring.

    I’d like to conclude this post with a scripture from Galatians 3:28 which reads, There is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

  9. he has actually come out in favor of legalising or at least decriminalizing pot and has made pro-environmental statements. so, this broken clock occasionally channels someone else or like some former supreme court justices, he is gettinb more liberal with age. maybe by one hundred, his gay greatgrandchildren will be able to talk to him without him wanting to barf.

  10. I am truly disgusted by those gays and lesbians,who have animosity towards trans and intersexed people.I am a bi but lesbian oriented (m to f) who finds the rape ”blood libel” myth truly disgusting as is the gay male notion of being misguided gays horrible. However I am against hatred of cisgendered L and G people,and realize that some are truly for us.If one is at all decent we should not relish the persecution of gays and lesbians but denounce those with animosity,and praise those individuals who support us.Gays and lesbians with animosity for us are idiotic as they need as many allies as they can get.So I do not support anyones persecution or mistreatment ,nor do I hate ”straight” people.

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